Stalling out wont idle have to stay on throttle
#11
Negative numbers in fuel trim means rich, not lean. -50 is VERY rich (probably the limit of what can be displayed), so the smoke coming out makes sense. When under load, the engine needs the extra fuel, but when the load is removed, it makes things very rich. You say you replaced all four injectors. OEM? Correct part number? Were you getting these symptoms (very rich, smoke) before replacing the injectors?
#12
Negative numbers in fuel trim means rich, not lean. -50 is VERY rich (probably the limit of what can be displayed), so the smoke coming out makes sense. When under load, the engine needs the extra fuel, but when the load is removed, it makes things very rich. You say you replaced all four injectors. OEM? Correct part number? Were you getting these symptoms (very rich, smoke) before replacing the injectors?
#13
According to the FSM, the ECM regulates the injector pulse (amount of fuel delivered) based on engine coolant temperature (ECT), manifold absolute pressure (MAP), and throttle position (from TPS), in all modes of operation -- start, open loop, closed loop, idle, WOT, etc. If the engine is running very rich, it's either the injectors or the ECM that is controlling the injectors. For the injectors, check that the fuel pump is delivering 50-60 psi. Each injector should ohm out at 11-14 ohms. And there is a tester called a fuel injector balance tool that checks injector output, but this is pretty pricey -- you can check with a shop if everything else checks out to have this test done. And because the ECM relies on ECT, MAP, and TPS, make sure each of these is good. If your scan tool reads atmospheric pressure, it should be reading between 96 - 104 kPa (13.9 - 15.1 psi) at sea level with the engine off. (Pressures will decrease slightly with altitude.)
I've not had any drivability issues at all with my 2.2, so I learned a lot looking up this information. Good luck on running down the issue and correcting it.
I've not had any drivability issues at all with my 2.2, so I learned a lot looking up this information. Good luck on running down the issue and correcting it.
#14
According to the FSM, the ECM regulates the injector pulse (amount of fuel delivered) based on engine coolant temperature (ECT), manifold absolute pressure (MAP), and throttle position (from TPS), in all modes of operation -- start, open loop, closed loop, idle, WOT, etc. If the engine is running very rich, it's either the injectors or the ECM that is controlling the injectors. For the injectors, check that the fuel pump is delivering 50-60 psi. Each injector should ohm out at 11-14 ohms. And there is a tester called a fuel injector balance tool that checks injector output, but this is pretty pricey -- you can check with a shop if everything else checks out to have this test done. And because the ECM relies on ECT, MAP, and TPS, make sure each of these is good. If your scan tool reads atmospheric pressure, it should be reading between 96 - 104 kPa (13.9 - 15.1 psi) at sea level with the engine off. (Pressures will decrease slightly with altitude.)
I've not had any drivability issues at all with my 2.2, so I learned a lot looking up this information. Good luck on running down the issue and correcting it.
I've not had any drivability issues at all with my 2.2, so I learned a lot looking up this information. Good luck on running down the issue and correcting it.
#17
Negative numbers in fuel trim means rich, not lean. -50 is VERY rich (probably the limit of what can be displayed), so the smoke coming out makes sense. When under load, the engine needs the extra fuel, but when the load is removed, it makes things very rich. You say you replaced all four injectors. OEM? Correct part number? Were you getting these symptoms (very rich, smoke) before replacing the injectors?
If you don't have a cat, you probably don't have any back pressure either in the exhaust, which means the exhaust will not spend enough time around the front O2 sensor for it to read properly.
Did you have a cat before you started the rebuild?
Suspect the ECM as the last option.
Andy's comment about the fuel regulator is something you must check. There is a Schrader valve on The fuel line leading to the fuel rail. Hook up a fuel pressure gauge. The average fuel pump will put out 90 to 100 PSI into the regulator which brings it down to the 40s or '50s. The regulator for these third gen cars is integral to the fuel filter. So checking fuel up by the engine will tell you if it has failed.
Is there anything else about this build, component-wise not on the car extra on the car etc, that you have not told us about? Does it have a muffler or is it straight piped? Are you bypassing anything? Have you adjusted anything on the throttle body?
Please share the information now so that we may help you. Otherwise we're chasing a ghost with three arms, two heads, and an ****
#18
But I defer to your experience and guidance.
#19
No, you are exactly correct. It ignores 02 sensor reading in open loop since the sensor is usually not heated up yet. But he would definitely get a code for not being in closed loop after x amount of time, one would think. Something like a failure to reach closed loop operation. No I have to look up what constitutes closed loop. Keeping me honest, sir.
#20
Here we go
Open/Closed Loop Operation
Open Loop
When the engine is first started the system goes into open loop operation. In open loop, the ECM calculates the Air/Fuel ratio based on inputs from the coolant and MAF sensors. The system remains in open-loop until the following three conditions are met:- Coolant temperature above 105°F.
- Oxygen sensor has varying output voltage (indicating it is hot enough to operate properly).
- A specific amount of time (preprogrammed into the MEM-CAL) has elapsed.