Saturn S Series Sedan SL, SL1, and SL2

Taking forever to go into final gear? (1995 SW-2 Automatic)

Old Jan 25, 2025 | 07:18 PM
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The oem housing has a different size o ring.

The o ring that comes with the thermostats I mentioned (One in the same) will not fit in the OEM housing. You then have to switch housings to be able to use the new o-ring. But that motorad is a POS. Not just me saying so. It's out there. Just make sure whatever you get has either the same size o-ring as the thermostat housing or that you buy the thermostat and housing as a unit, those guaranteeing the o-ring will fit the housing it comes with.
 
Old Jan 26, 2025 | 10:10 AM
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Originally Posted by derf
I wrote that
The oem housing has a different size o ring.

The o ring that comes with the thermostats I mentioned (One in the same) will not fit in the OEM housing. You then have to switch housings to be able to use the new o-ring. But that motorad is a POS. Not just me saying so. It's out there. Just make sure whatever you get has either the same size o-ring as the thermostat housing or that you buy the thermostat and housing as a unit, those guaranteeing the o-ring will fit the housing it comes with.
Where can one buy the brand you recommended? pretty new to buying parts, and are you saying that the Stant o-ring will also not work, or just the motorad ones?

Are those other brands reputable to you from rock-auto or should I try to look elsewhere for the Stant?
 
Old Jan 26, 2025 | 08:35 PM
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The motorad o-ring is not the same size as the OEM so it does not fit the OEM housing.

Ironically, I do not know if the stant o ring provided with the stant thermostat fits the OEM housing, because when the moto rad kept sticking after installation, I simply put my previous and still functioning thermostat back in and never had a problem.

Stant 14279

Comes with O ring

Available on eBay
Available on Amazon. Amazon description is completely ****ed up. Prices for both are outrageous. Seem to be going extinct.
 

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Old Feb 2, 2025 | 04:02 PM
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Oh alright, should I try the four seasons one and hope that works just because its more expensive than the others on rock auto? LOL

Otherwise I guess I could try calling stores around me to see if they happen to have a staten in stock, not very hopeful though,
 
Old Feb 23, 2025 | 04:07 PM
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I checked Rock Auto again today and they now have listed:

https://www.rockauto.com/en/moreinfo...t=2200&jsn=573

STANT 14279 188 Degree; Includes Seal $14.16
OE Temperature

FOUR SEASONS85620Thermostat Housing; Includes Thermostat $31.79 (price went up from $18.87... lol)

Is that stant one usable? It looks a lot different form the other ones for sale, does it require buying additional parts, sorry for being so bad at this
 
Old Feb 23, 2025 | 10:39 PM
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The Stant one fits in the OEM housing so no other parts are needed.
 
Old Feb 25, 2025 | 10:44 AM
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Any stant you buy that was made anytime recently will be a motorad.

I even thought one off eBay, it came in a box from 2012, but along the way someone had taken the real stant out and swapped it with a cheap Korean knock off.

Some people like gates, some people say they suck.

Let us know what you finally use and how long it lasts before your car overheats.
 
Old Oct 20, 2025 | 07:48 AM
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I have neglected this repair, had so little time, but now it is getting cold and I must must do it! I am confused by which temp is correct for the thermostat. The options on rock auto:
185 degrees [dorman]
192 degrees [dorman]
185 degress [Motorad ew]
192 degrees [motorad... ew]
185 degrees [gates... but the picture is motorad... ew]
unknown degrees [four seasons brand]

they all seem sad options
 
Old Oct 20, 2025 | 08:49 AM
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The OEM temp thermostat for your car is 185 degrees. Stop putting it off. Just get the dorman 185 and go for it before you're freezing your *** off. Procrastination is no excuse.
 
Old Oct 20, 2025 | 02:58 PM
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185 is the temperature at which it begins to open.
192 is the temperature at which it is fully open.

I don't know who gives that much of a **** about when it is fully open. If you're racing, you probably have no thermostat but you do have a plate to slow down the flow. They're supposed to about that here somewhere where Andy explains what happens if you just take the thermostat out and don't slow down the coolant flow
 

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