PO731 code
#1
11-02-2009, 01:17 PM
PO731 code
I pulled out of my driveway today with my 99 SL1 w/155K miles on it. Put in drive and it wouldn't move. So I put it back in neutral, and then back to drive and it drove off, but the check engine light came on. I quickly turned it around and drove back home. I stopped at a couple stop signs on the way back and I didn't have it happen again.
Got home, checked with the scanner and it came up PO731, which is 1st gear slipping.
I thought about erasing the code and taking it for a drive and see if it does it again.
But where do I even start on this?
Got home, checked with the scanner and it came up PO731, which is 1st gear slipping.
I thought about erasing the code and taking it for a drive and see if it does it again.
But where do I even start on this?
#2
11-02-2009, 03:52 PM
From Ssicarman on Saturnfans.com:
DTC P0731
Circuit Description
During normal driving modules the PCM/TC adapts line pressure to prevent clutch slip and harsh shifts. If the 1st clutch is slipping after the pressure is adjusted to the high line, it is determined that there is no 1st gear. First gear clutch is fed directly from the manual valve and is always applied in all forward gear selections.
Conditions for Setting the DTC
DTC P0731 will set when the PCM has detected the following twice in an ignition cycle:
--Vehicle speed is greater than 5 km/h (3 mph).
--Input shaft speed is greater than 224 RPM.
--No input shaft or vehicle speed signal noise.
--High line pressure has been commanded.
--Ratio failure counter equals 225 for an in-gear failure, or the shift failure counter is greater than 100 on a downshift to 1st during acceleration. 128 equals 0 or normal operation. OR Second gear must be commanded ON for the vehicle to move.
Test Description
Numbered steps below refer to numbered steps on the chart.
Check for DTCs P0745, P0716, and P0717. They must be eliminated first as a possible cause for DTC P0731.
Pressure test at the same temperature that the fault occurred to assure the fault is not a pressure problem that only occurs in a particular temperature range. Low line pressure, which would be indicated by DTC P0745 line pressure low, must be eliminated first as a possible cause for DTC P0731.
Refer to Test Section Diagnosis in Automatic Transaxle for pressure apply points. Remove the valve body and air check the 1st clutch apply through the case passage.
This step targets the specific mechanical failure.
Clutch Leaks
- Remove the end cover and check for damaged 1st gear hub seal rings and check for a blocked passage in the cover or case.
- If the seal rings are OK, remove the 1st clutch and replace the leaking piston.
- Servo leak causing loss of 1st oil pressure -- Remove the valve body and air check and check the 1st oil pressure passage to servo. Also check the 1, 3, and 4 passages to servo.
No Blockage In Passages
- The 1st gear sprag failed.
- The 1st clutch plates failed as a result of low line pressure or inadequate lube.
- The output shaft is broken.
- The incorrect gear ratio is installed.
Repair Verification
Monitor the DTC menu Code Status for Pass Since Code Clear and Pass This Ignition Cycle. When both have passed, the repair is verified.
Criteria for pass:
--Steady in 1st gear with no slip for 0.4 seconds.
-- Engine torque is greater than 30 counts for 0.1 seconds.
Diagnostic Aids
-- To air check the 1st clutch, use the 1st clutch pressure port in the test section. Apply compressed air with the rubber nozzle on an air gun.
--Important: First gear is a mechanical hydraulic apply. Other than line pressure, there is no electrical circuit that affects this gear.
--P0731 may be set under certain conditions if an intermittent loss of the vehicle speed signal occurs. If the customer is also experiencing speedometer problems, check the VSS circuit as a possible cause of DTC P0731.
-- A short-to-ground or open in the turbine speed sensor wiring will set DTC P0731. Verify using the scan tool.
--Verify the proper calibration is installed in the PCM.
Also this service bulletin apparently exists for 98-2002:
(SES) Service Engine Soon Light On with Diagnostic Trouble Code (DTC) P0731, No Movement in Drive During Cold Ambient Temperatures (Replace Oil Pump or 1st Gear Sprag Clutch Assembly) #03-07-30-008A - (May 12, 2004)
(SES) Service Engine Soon Light On with Diagnostic Trouble Code (DTC) P0731, No Movement in Drive During Cold Ambient Temperatures (Replace Oil Pump or 1st Gear Sprag Clutch Assembly)
1998-2002 Saturn S-Series Vehicles
with Automatic Transmissions (MP6/MP7)
DTC P0731
Circuit Description
During normal driving modules the PCM/TC adapts line pressure to prevent clutch slip and harsh shifts. If the 1st clutch is slipping after the pressure is adjusted to the high line, it is determined that there is no 1st gear. First gear clutch is fed directly from the manual valve and is always applied in all forward gear selections.
Conditions for Setting the DTC
DTC P0731 will set when the PCM has detected the following twice in an ignition cycle:
--Vehicle speed is greater than 5 km/h (3 mph).
--Input shaft speed is greater than 224 RPM.
--No input shaft or vehicle speed signal noise.
--High line pressure has been commanded.
--Ratio failure counter equals 225 for an in-gear failure, or the shift failure counter is greater than 100 on a downshift to 1st during acceleration. 128 equals 0 or normal operation. OR Second gear must be commanded ON for the vehicle to move.
Test Description
Numbered steps below refer to numbered steps on the chart.
Check for DTCs P0745, P0716, and P0717. They must be eliminated first as a possible cause for DTC P0731.
Pressure test at the same temperature that the fault occurred to assure the fault is not a pressure problem that only occurs in a particular temperature range. Low line pressure, which would be indicated by DTC P0745 line pressure low, must be eliminated first as a possible cause for DTC P0731.
Refer to Test Section Diagnosis in Automatic Transaxle for pressure apply points. Remove the valve body and air check the 1st clutch apply through the case passage.
This step targets the specific mechanical failure.
Clutch Leaks
- Remove the end cover and check for damaged 1st gear hub seal rings and check for a blocked passage in the cover or case.
- If the seal rings are OK, remove the 1st clutch and replace the leaking piston.
- Servo leak causing loss of 1st oil pressure -- Remove the valve body and air check and check the 1st oil pressure passage to servo. Also check the 1, 3, and 4 passages to servo.
No Blockage In Passages
- The 1st gear sprag failed.
- The 1st clutch plates failed as a result of low line pressure or inadequate lube.
- The output shaft is broken.
- The incorrect gear ratio is installed.
Repair Verification
Monitor the DTC menu Code Status for Pass Since Code Clear and Pass This Ignition Cycle. When both have passed, the repair is verified.
Criteria for pass:
--Steady in 1st gear with no slip for 0.4 seconds.
-- Engine torque is greater than 30 counts for 0.1 seconds.
Diagnostic Aids
-- To air check the 1st clutch, use the 1st clutch pressure port in the test section. Apply compressed air with the rubber nozzle on an air gun.
--Important: First gear is a mechanical hydraulic apply. Other than line pressure, there is no electrical circuit that affects this gear.
--P0731 may be set under certain conditions if an intermittent loss of the vehicle speed signal occurs. If the customer is also experiencing speedometer problems, check the VSS circuit as a possible cause of DTC P0731.
-- A short-to-ground or open in the turbine speed sensor wiring will set DTC P0731. Verify using the scan tool.
--Verify the proper calibration is installed in the PCM.
Also this service bulletin apparently exists for 98-2002:
(SES) Service Engine Soon Light On with Diagnostic Trouble Code (DTC) P0731, No Movement in Drive During Cold Ambient Temperatures (Replace Oil Pump or 1st Gear Sprag Clutch Assembly) #03-07-30-008A - (May 12, 2004)
(SES) Service Engine Soon Light On with Diagnostic Trouble Code (DTC) P0731, No Movement in Drive During Cold Ambient Temperatures (Replace Oil Pump or 1st Gear Sprag Clutch Assembly)
1998-2002 Saturn S-Series Vehicles
with Automatic Transmissions (MP6/MP7)
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