Well as long as your here go to the new member section and introduce yourself ... You can be the Outlook guru on the forum.

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I realize that it is reported that Saturn closed the doors through lack of sales. That said it still amazes me the number of them I see on the road even today. May it is a function of the local dealer network or local advertising. But it is also an indicator of the success GM has had in marketing their brands while showing the rest of the world how it is done. I recently read a review of the new Cadillac and it's recognition of needing to compete with Audi and Mercedes at that level of automotive competition while also recognizing the need to rebuild it lost acceptance as a leader in automotive design and manufacturing. With stellar examples like the Cimarron a poorly conceived badge engineered (politically correctly called a corporate platform or another way to produce the same car with different names) a Cadillac that can be instantaneously associated with the word "Econobox" rather than "Industry Leader" and by itself probably did more to destroy the presence of he car as a world leader than anything could. It takes a long time to establish acceptance and it can be destroyed over night a factoid marketing people have for gotten or if they come from financing back ground, never learned.

The GM Acadia and the Buick Enclave all show up in the same GM Shop Manuals, surprising how lots of the trim and inside styling is different, but perhaps seats are a bigger design investment.

Dude, with all due respect this is a 6 year old thread.......necroposting is discouraged unless
you have some type of breakthrough that, although the OP may have
left
gotten married
divorced for cheating on his wife with an insatiable co-ed
then died in a car crash involving the very same 2nd row seats we discussed (busy in back seat, not wearing seat belts, among other things)

the rest of us would find highly useful. Don't get me wrong...we like to chat on this forum, just not in 6 year old posts

Even the ancient contents of this forum show up in searches, so might be helpful to someone, sometime...?