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TRoop 02-10-2013 11:36 AM

2005 ION2 rear defrost not working
 
I'm trying to figure out why the rear defrost does not heat. I've checked the fuse and it is fine. I do not get any current at the two window leads when the defrost is switched on. The panel indicator light comes on but no juice.

My first thought was that the switch may be bad but I find it odd that the indicator light comes on.

Next thought is a physical break in one of the wires. Is there a published wiring diagram for this? I'd rather not just start taking panels off trying to trace the wires.

Or does someone have another idea where the break could be.

Thanks.

sw2cam 02-10-2013 02:56 PM

Wiring diagram or not you'll still have to trace down the problem. Go to the store and buy a service manual for your car. That would be at an auto parts store.


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RjION 02-10-2013 04:55 PM

,and you know for a fact that the relay and fuse are in working order?

TRoop 02-10-2013 07:43 PM

RjION - Ah...didn't catch that there was a relay. I'll check it out too.

I'll post back if that isn't the fix.

Thank you.

Rubehayseed 02-11-2013 07:21 AM

How about posting back even if that IS the fix. That way, maybe the next person will be able to remedy the problem quickly.

OceanArcher 02-11-2013 04:00 PM

It would be interesting to find out just how it was determined that there was no electrical power at the two window leads .....

sw2cam 02-11-2013 05:53 PM


Originally Posted by TRoop (Post 35217)
RjION - Ah...didn't catch that there was a relay. I'll check it out too.

I'll post back if that isn't the fix.

Thank you.

You are the rooptech

TRoop 02-11-2013 09:13 PM


Originally Posted by OceanArcher (Post 35230)
It would be interesting to find out just how it was determined that there was no electrical power at the two window leads .....

I used a DC volt meter. No current and no continuity with dashboard switch on. I checked with the two leads connected to the grid and with both of them off.

I have a new relay but I don't feel like braving the rain to switch it out. I'll post the results after the weather dries out.

OceanArcher 02-12-2013 08:23 AM

The reason I asked the question, is that I too had a problem with my rear window defroster (wife's car). Granted, my wife's car is an '09 Aura, but I suspect the system works pretty much the same.

Turned the ignition switch to the "RUN" position without starting the car. Turned off radio and other noise-making devices. Pressed the switch, and was able to hear the relay "click". Measured across the tabs on the window --> nothing.

Examined the window carefully where the wires attach to the tabs (looking for a break in the window grid) --> looked good to me. Measured for voltage again, only this time from the window tab on the driver's side to the frame of the car -- VOILA! 12 volts!

Remeasured across the tabs, and got a reading of zero --- what the heck? Repeated the measurement from the tab to chassis ground -- 12 volts. After a bit of head scratching, decided to measure from the tab on the passenger's side to the chassis -- and got a reading of 12 volts also !?!

Disconnected the wires from the tabs, and measured from each wire to the chassis. On her car, the driver's side wire was 12 volts, and the other side was zero. It finally became clear -- there was a break/disconnect in the wiring from the defroster back to chassis ground. Rather than try to locate the break, I just obtained a sire of similar size, and ran it from the tab to the chassis --> problem solved!

RjION 02-12-2013 01:57 PM

I don't think I've ever turned on my rear defogger.


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