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Old Jan 5, 2022 | 10:20 AM
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Aim high, Billy. You should set a goal for ASE Certified Master Mechanic. I know two and those guys make a LOT of money.
This is good advice as long as you actually have the skills to back up the paper so don’t pencil whip your way through the game. A guy at at $30/hr flat rate that flags 120 hours a pay out earns the guy making $45/hr who only turns 75 hours. The paper work sets your rate, how fast you are often makes the difference. And working your comp plan right. The number of guys who ignore spiffs drives me bananas lol
 
Old Feb 9, 2022 | 01:34 AM
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Got a call from a local performance shop today. I forgot I applied there, like a year ago.
went in for an interview. Little less money, but more so what I want to do.
also, 10 min from home vs 30 min.
They do basic repair/restorations/off road builds etc.

Turning in my notice with yota tomorrow. I'm ready. Tool boxes have wheels for a reason.
 
Old Feb 9, 2022 | 05:41 AM
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Some thoughts, Billy.
Take a day off and go hang out with them in the shop. Toyo is a guaranteed gig which means guaranteed coin.
I would highly advise sticking with the T job FOR NOW, esp in case someone sues your *** over the fire. Even a frivolous lawsuit by one of the other unit owners will drain you financially.

I left a six-figure job for a lot less to work with people I knew doing what I thought I would do for the rest of my working days. 3 months later my income was zero.
ZERO.
I didn't take the time to read the tea leaves.
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If it took them a year to get back to you, I'd question why they think you weren't good enough then, and why whoever they did hire lasted one full year.

Not trying to be a dick for once. This has lack of respect and commitment on their part written all over it.
Don't let boredom take charge of your bank account. At least not right now.

Sometimes the grass is greener on the other 0side only because someone fertilized it while you weren't looking
 
Old Feb 9, 2022 | 07:21 AM
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Glad to hear you got an offer somewhere that might be a better fit for you. You will never know somewhere is good unless you go there. I will be honest early in my career I moved every year or two to get better experience or better money. When I got a place I didn’t outgrow the owners I stayed 7 years until they couldn’t pay enough then I went down the road.

Performance shops with competent techs can be great place to learn skills that you will never get at the dealer. As long as you are getting something for the pay cut, then it’s ok. Worst case scenario you get an experience you can use next time you grease the wheels.

I am currently working for about a third of what I made at my last job but I also work from home, less than half the hours, with a gold plated pension and benefits package and over 2 months of paid leave between my vacation and sick leave.

Chase the comp plan that makes you happy, there’s always someone willing to take care of you if you are good. There’s no nobility in being underpaid and under compensated.
 
Old Feb 9, 2022 | 04:58 PM
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Originally Posted by derf
Some thoughts, Billy.
Take a day off and go hang out with them in the shop. Toyo is a guaranteed gig which means guaranteed coin.
I would highly advise sticking with the T job FOR NOW, esp in case someone sues your *** over the fire. Even a frivolous lawsuit by one of the other unit owners will drain you financially.

I left a six-figure job for a lot less to work with people I knew doing what I thought I would do for the rest of my working days. 3 months later my income was zero.
ZERO.
I didn't take the time to read the tea leaves.
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If it took them a year to get back to you, I'd question why they think you weren't good enough then, and why whoever they did hire lasted one full year.

Not trying to be a dick for once. This has lack of respect and commitment on their part written all over it.
Don't let boredom take charge of your bank account. At least not right now.

Sometimes the grass is greener on the other 0side only because someone fertilized it while you weren't looking
Yota is guaranteed, you are right. And I can take my dealer certifications that are specific to toyota to any yota dealer in North America.
but at the same time, when theyre dicking around with sending me to classes off site, cutting everyones hours (hourly at least) and no benefits, it's not worth me putting $70-$100 a week in my gas tank.
Dealers are franchises. I'm sure you know that. So the owner of the dealer a town over may be different (it is here) so that will always be an option.
Last time I applied I had 0 shop experience. I keep my resume updated.

Even if I don't end up liking it, it will be easier to get into another performance shop elsewhere adding that to my resume. And can justify more money then.
 
Old Feb 9, 2022 | 05:03 PM
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Originally Posted by NorthernTouch
Glad to hear you got an offer somewhere that might be a better fit for you. You will never know somewhere is good unless you go there. I will be honest early in my career I moved every year or two to get better experience or better money. When I got a place I didn’t outgrow the owners I stayed 7 years until they couldn’t pay enough then I went down the road.

Performance shops with competent techs can be great place to learn skills that you will never get at the dealer. As long as you are getting something for the pay cut, then it’s ok. Worst case scenario you get an experience you can use next time you grease the wheels.

I am currently working for about a third of what I made at my last job but I also work from home, less than half the hours, with a gold plated pension and benefits package and over 2 months of paid leave between my vacation and sick leave.

Chase the comp plan that makes you happy, there’s always someone willing to take care of you if you are good. There’s no nobility in being underpaid and under compensated.
I havent always bounced around. But have always kept an open mind. I was in culinary before this. Theres always someone that will pay better.
Being I'm only a year into my auto career swap, I'm in it for the education along with the benefits. I cant afford to go to school, so I'll go to where people are willing to teach and get a paycheck.
I'm 28 now and feel like im 58. Benefits would be nice along with starting to just overall take better care of my body.
I really enjoy doing this, and I know it'll be hard on me if I dont fix that.
I'll be saving probably $40-50 a week in gas alone. And I'm sure there will be more to it when I get more time to sit down and talk to them. I interviewed on my lunch break. Seems theyve been in business around 40 years (or maybe wrenching for 40 years, I'll need to double check that) but def an opportunity to get some hands on learning
 
Old Feb 9, 2022 | 05:38 PM
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It’ll take about 3 years from the start for your competence level to be good enough to start commanding real money.

Until then you are on the right track, you pay for your experience by being the proverbial shop bitch or by literally paying for school. You learn a lot more being the shop bitch as long as you opt to help out whenever you can. There’s almost always a tech ready to trade you tips and skills for helping them do the less desirable work. As an apprentice I got plenty of major jobs (pulling engines and clutches, etc) on someone else’s punch card by also volunteering to do a lot of oil changes and tires that weren’t really my responsibility. In the end it works out.
 
Old Feb 9, 2022 | 06:59 PM
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Just wanted to make sure it wasn't an impulse knee jerk thing given the recent nastiness in your life..

Your head seems pretty clear.

Chase it, man. Chase it.
 
Old Feb 9, 2022 | 07:57 PM
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Originally Posted by NorthernTouch
It’ll take about 3 years from the start for your competence level to be good enough to start commanding real money.

Until then you are on the right track, you pay for your experience by being the proverbial shop bitch or by literally paying for school. You learn a lot more being the shop bitch as long as you opt to help out whenever you can. There’s almost always a tech ready to trade you tips and skills for helping them do the less desirable work. As an apprentice I got plenty of major jobs (pulling engines and clutches, etc) on someone else’s punch card by also volunteering to do a lot of oil changes and tires that weren’t really my responsibility. In the end it works out.
Pretty much how I'm swinging it now at the dealer. Ive done plenty of jobs for the techs because they just didnt want to. Been stuck with quite a few electrical diag lately, which I hate doing, but good practice if I'm forced. Well, not forced, but thats the future of it.

Originally Posted by derf
Just wanted to make sure it wasn't an impulse knee jerk thing given the recent nastiness in your life..

Your head seems pretty clear.

Chase it, man. Chase it.
It is, but it isnt. The people there are only getting worse and lazier. Its hard to stay positive. But I have my long tern goals set. And been doing a bunch of scrapping on the side for extra income already. Were wanting to build a house here soon, so time to get the ***** busted.
 
Old Feb 10, 2022 | 06:46 AM
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Nothing's ever really clear
Doesn't matter how much beer
Seen so much by 28
Damn good thing you learned to ski
Life will slow you
Often blow you
Off the current trajectory
Don't know you
Like you know you
My thoughts by definition conjecture y
Keep your eyes on the prize
Whatever form it takes
You can already see through the lies
Discerning the real from fake

Cloudy means thought
Thought drives ambition
Advance your position
ignore the derision
You've made your decision
Recalculate your position

Go
 

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