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Old May 20, 2015 | 07:59 AM
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Angry Those Stuipid Windows

Having owned an SC2 long after most people have traded it off for something made in Korea rather than Tennessee, certain characteristics of the thing are pleasurable which is why I kept it, and others? Make me beat my head against a wall.
Yesterday while happily going to Rehab exercise I put the window down accompanied by loud mechanical unhappy sounds. The dang thing quit again, that is the third time since owning the car. Disassembly showed nothing particularly mechanically wrong, other than a lesson in why you should not try to take the motor off.
Does any one know how it actually decides to stop driving the motor in automatic mode?
Anyway I have to replace the motor for the passenger side yet, parts are in the garage for that. Procrastination has kept me from it. Now? Grrrrrr-rr!
Off to Rock Auto!
 
Old May 20, 2015 | 12:22 PM
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I replaced the passenger side motor on my 97 SC2. Just drilled out the rivets and reattached new one w fasteners. Lubed tracks and done.

Maybe the 1st Gen are more difficult to realign when reattaching the motor. Dunno.
 
Old May 21, 2015 | 03:12 AM
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Yup, I think I remember your posting on that. I had been buying the replacement lift mechanism from GM through what is now the local Chevy dealer. If I remember correctly the whole thing from GM is somewhere close to $200.00. I have done that on the drivers side twice.
I ordered a motor from Rock auto for the passenger side not too long after you went through that exercise and it still sits in the packing box with my other Saturn parts under a round tuit sign of unfinished business. So according to the e-mail I have a replacement motor for the drivers side coming soon. I will get to do it with both sides and I think that means both the outer door skin and the interior door panel both have to come off to gain access to the mounting hardware for the window lift mechanism to remove it.
Doing both sides should keep me occupied and out of trouble for a week or so.
 
Old May 21, 2015 | 09:30 PM
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I just don't like electric windows.
 
Old May 22, 2015 | 03:07 AM
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Unfortunately, I have not seen a car recently with windows that aren't electric and if the advertisements are right you now have tail gates that open when you kick it in the butt, dash boards that talk to you and display things on screens you can't read as you get older and they fade, seats that move when you get into the car, usually to some where else than where you don't want them to be and the list goes on and gets more expensive all managed by a salesman who gets his panties in a knot if you do not swoon over the availability of all of these things. I had a salesman walk away to get another one and I heard him say I can't talk to his person. His reason? I told him I did not want leather interior, he told me that is the only way they come so I pointed at the option list is the dealer brochure that cloth was an option. This at a Chrysler dealer?
Who the blazes are they hiring these days, self centered arrogant types? No wonder a dealer can't sell cars, they are not trying.
Their entire sales knowledge consists of knowing where the golf cart is and driving it around hoping you will have a knee jerk reaction to the purple or puce one at $40,000 and your credit is good.
Besides the electric windows are o.k., when you want to put one down you can't reach and they work of course.
I love one of the new features, the thing is supposed to start if you push a button.
How exciting is that?
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Old May 22, 2015 | 08:59 AM
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puce; I learned a new color this morning.
And that Unc in general can't stand dealerships --- oh wait, I already knew that.

And I'm not typing what the definition of puce is so if you wanna know, you'll have to look it up just like I did. THink of it as continuing education for life skills---
"Finding information in the Digital Age---All by Yourself"

Sorry it's gonna one of those days. I have to go create a functional wireless network in a 100+ year old house w plaster walls and what I expect to be chicken wire inside (used as a substrate for the plaster during application.

Can you say Faraday cage?

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Old May 23, 2015 | 04:01 AM
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My first house was built as close as I could tell, right about 1796, it was nor framed, but instead was built like a barn with large pieces of timber in the corners (about 4x4's ) mortised into each other and pegged and then another one going the full length of the walls to the next corner. It was originally a salt box design and them added on to about civil war era. The walls were plastered, but plastered on to large boards that had been hit with an ax and split and then stretched out to form a lattice.
The exterior walls were boards nailed to the corners of the buildings, window frame were fashioned and then a hole cut into the exterior and the frame was securely fastened to the exterior walls. The floors were supported by actual logs, that had been flattened on one side to allow a floor to be fastened to them, and this was done by hand probably with an Ads or Adz, not sure of the spelling now. There was still bark attached to them. The original structure was a simple rectangle but when added on to it went back to take what we had as a laundry but I suspect it was an indoor john, and out one side twice to form a sort of a den. It was built of course before gas lights and electricity and plumbing all of which were added to it at one time or another.
It was probably heated by stoves with chimney flues or stove pipes going from the fist floor through the ceilings and then across 2nd floor rooms to half chimneys so the stove pipe radiated heat into the rooms. The Chimney's were still there as decorative exterior elements. Except for one which was being used by a big old coal furnace in the hand dug basement that had been converted to gas and was a gravity feed system. One large grate in the floor of the dinning room and huge big return lines where the cold air fell and went back to the furnace.
NO INSULATION. When I owned it I had neither the money to make effective repairs nor the knowledge I later learned to deal with the thing. It was a mess! I still shutter thinking of it.
 
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