Saturn S Series Sedan SL, SL1, and SL2

Locking nut broken/seized, any ideas what to do?

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Old Sep 11, 2024 | 10:29 PM
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Ended up drilling it , altho somehow it was not centered despite the centered punch! Eventually switched to die grinder

Wheel is off thanks for advice !

One question, how do I remove this stud? Just waCk with hammer or would that cause damage? I heard it could damage ball bearings but what alternative is there



 
Old Sep 11, 2024 | 11:06 PM
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I've used an air chisel to remove wheel studs. It was pretty easy but I didn't have rust to worry about. I would be leery of using a hammer.
 
Old Sep 12, 2024 | 06:41 AM
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They are essentially press fit installed so you will need to use some force to remove them.

I used a hammer and a undersized punch. The press fit portion is rather short and near the head.

You need to rotate the hub to the position where the stud can actually slide past the knuckle on its way out. I believe this is at 6:00 but don't remember. Anywhere else and the head gets trapped by the knuckle and you can't pull it out.

I replaced 100% of the studs on my 95 SC2 this way with zero ill effects. You may want to soak them in blaster or equivalent for a little while before wailing on them. If you are truly concerned with damaging bearings and such, I suppose you could cut a piece of wood to support the hub that is exactly the distance between the back of the hub and I'm not sure what to keep the hub assy and bearings from flexing around its center.

To me, if you are properly transferring the force to the lug nut stud, not much energy should be transferred to the hub. Of course, if they are rusted in place, that may be a different story.
 

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Old Sep 12, 2024 | 07:30 AM
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I've always used a ball peen hammer and a punch to knock them out.
 
Old Sep 12, 2024 | 10:26 AM
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Why a ball peen hammer, Rube?
 
Old Sep 12, 2024 | 12:54 PM
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Rube is probably in the same generation as I am. When I grew up, claw hammers were used for carpentry. When working on cars, you used a ball peen hammer, or a small sledge for heavy work.
 
Old Sep 12, 2024 | 02:08 PM
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Recently purchased my first baby sledge. I think I might have used it on one of the lug nuts that just would not budge. Find it handy for all kinds of things now. Never thought to buy a ball peen hammer, but I googled it and found out what it's supposed to be great for. Accuracy, which I have none of. Precise shaping with the rounded end which I think is not actually round or it would just do round shaping, etc.

Sorry for the delay in typing. My tortie stopped by for some lovin and kept headbutting the phone.

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Old Sep 12, 2024 | 04:15 PM
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Here is better image of back side, it looks like a sunk ww2 ship resurfaced lol, should I try to use like a scotch brite pad with a Dremel tool on back side first? Or wire wheel or something , then pb blast , then finally to put force


 
Old Sep 12, 2024 | 05:50 PM
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The only rust you need to worry about for now is between the head of that stud and the hub.

I'd try blaster and see what happens. Worst that can happen is it doesn't work ..
 
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