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timmerz Mar 23, 2014 12:04 PM

99 SW2 quick question:
 
Can anybody tell me where the fan relay is located? Switch-point for mine has always been almost exactly in the middle of the gauge, now it's not switching on but will go on when the ac button is pushed...going to replace the relay first, just need to know where to start looking.
Thanks,
Tim

derf Mar 23, 2014 12:42 PM

it's in the underhood junction box. The top cover of the box has the layout imprinted on the inside of the lid.

However, if the fan comes on when the a/c is engaged I'd be more inclined to suspect an ECTS sensor/connector/wiring issue than the relay. Faulty temp info derived from a bad ects reading (likely too cold) would have the end result of not telling the PCM it's time to kick in the fan since it doesn't think the engine's hot enough

timmerz Mar 23, 2014 01:33 PM


Originally Posted by derf (Post 43120)
it's in the underhood junction box. The top cover of the box has the layout imprinted on the inside of the lid.

However, if the fan comes on when the a/c is engaged I'd be more inclined to suspect an ECTS sensor/connector/wiring issue than the relay. Faulty temp info derived from a bad ects reading (likely too cold) would have the end result of not telling the PCM it's time to kick in the fan since it doesn't think the engine's hot enough


Thanks, Derf...you may be right, I have noticed the temp gauge acting slightly (tiny but discernible notching of the needle back and forth at any temp reading) sketchy...going to replace the relay first, then move on to the ECTS and pigtail if that has no effect...it's a '99, so chances are good I'll be replacing all of the replaceable electrical components in the next couple of years anyway.
Need to keep this puppy running since it has become a valuable necessity where my daughter and Grandson are concerned, for when their junk cars break down and they need to get to work...thanks for the info, this forum delivers like crazy!

timmerz Mar 23, 2014 03:38 PM

Ok, decided to replace the ECTS first after all...O'Reilly here in Manteca had the ETCS but not the pigtail/connector, so I'm just starting with the sensor...can anybody tell me where the thing is on the dohc 1.9? A cursory inspection did not clue me in at all...maybe I'm just blind...

derf Mar 23, 2014 07:12 PM

stand near driver's side fender. Find cylinder head. Look down. It is a two wire device sticking out of the head. It has a squeeze connector on it.

Connector is dealer only and can be sourced from any GM dealer.
GM ECTS's are also preferred. $40 give or take for the pair.

Corrosion on the connector will hose the reading. I would replace the connector as well and be done with it indefinitely.

timmerz Mar 23, 2014 07:36 PM


Originally Posted by derf (Post 43127)
stand near driver's side fender. Find cylinder head. Look down. It is a two wire device sticking out of the head. It has a squeeze connector on it.

Connector is dealer only and can be sourced from any GM dealer.
GM ECTS's are also preferred. $40 give or take for the pair.

Corrosion on the connector will hose the reading. I would replace the connector as well and be done with it indefinitely.


Yup, that's the plan...I also just realized that daughter and grandson somehow are running 100% water in the system, and that may be a part of the bigger picture issue here...she was complaining about having to keep adding water to the overflow and of seeing boiling fluid in the overflow...I know I had to give my credit card number over the phone to a mechanic in Reno Nv when the radiator tank developed a crack last year...going to have to drain the system and re-fill with 50/50 and go from there...

Howard_Woodard Mar 24, 2014 10:05 AM

In this picture look just above and slightly to the right of the dipstick.


https://www.saturnforum.com/forum/pi...&pictureid=701

timmerz Mar 24, 2014 11:08 AM


Originally Posted by Howard_Woodard (Post 43135)
In this picture look just above and slightly to the right of the dipstick.


https://www.saturnforum.com/forum/pi...&pictureid=701

Got it, thanks Howard...mine's a dohc, looks like it's a little bit more covered up with the air intake, etc...that's a great pic!

Rubehayseed Mar 24, 2014 06:34 PM

Even on the DOHC, it's still pretty much in the same place.

timmerz Mar 24, 2014 09:51 PM

Is Teflon tape a must for this application? I seem to recall reading here that it is...


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