Crank No Start
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Crank No Start
2007 Saturn Outlook 3.6 XE crank, no start , I replaced Both Front 2 Bank 2 camshaft sensors, that code cleared my scanner, now getting a tunning valve high voltage code P2078, will turn over but will not start
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this Saturn had a lot of issues, when a friend brought it to me to work on , I 1st replaced flange exhaust gaskets on it cause it was running loud, then had to replace valve cover and sparkplug well gaskets, cause oil was leaking into the wells, I sucked out each well that had oil in it with shop vac, and replaced all sparkplugs and coil packs, then, it would not start, but I was getting a camshaft sensor code bank 2 sensor 2 so I replaced Both camshaft sensors on bank 2 since I had to take off motormount and coolant pipe to have access to the sensors and now it still will not start, it sounds like it wants to start after a few seconds of cranking but then it will not
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Have you tried putting the old coils back on and trying it? Make sure the towers and wires are all clear of corrosion. Did you use OEM plugs or some sort of Chinesium trash? These vehicles run best with OEM parts, believe it or not. Remember the 4 components of ignition. Fuel, spark, air and compression. Have you run a compression test on it?
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How did the chains look?
Timing Chain Problems — These early models frequently encountered timing chain stretch and failure. Symptoms included engine misfires, poor performance, and rough idling.
To address this, GM extended the warranty on timing chains and updated the ECM software to improve oil life monitoring, reducing the likelihood of timing chain stretch. Regular oil changes with high-quality oil were also recommended to keep the timing chain well-lubricated and in good condition.
Oil Consumption — Excessive oil consumption was a significant problem, often caused by worn piston rings and valve seals. GM suggested using the correct oil grade and closely monitoring oil levels. They also implemented updated PCV valves to manage oil consumption more effectively.
Timing Chain Problems — These early models frequently encountered timing chain stretch and failure. Symptoms included engine misfires, poor performance, and rough idling.
To address this, GM extended the warranty on timing chains and updated the ECM software to improve oil life monitoring, reducing the likelihood of timing chain stretch. Regular oil changes with high-quality oil were also recommended to keep the timing chain well-lubricated and in good condition.
Oil Consumption — Excessive oil consumption was a significant problem, often caused by worn piston rings and valve seals. GM suggested using the correct oil grade and closely monitoring oil levels. They also implemented updated PCV valves to manage oil consumption more effectively.
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How did the chains look?
Timing Chain Problems — These early models frequently encountered timing chain stretch and failure. Symptoms included engine misfires, poor performance, and rough idling.
To address this, GM extended the warranty on timing chains and updated the ECM software to improve oil life monitoring, reducing the likelihood of timing chain stretch. Regular oil changes with high-quality oil were also recommended to keep the timing chain well-lubricated and in good condition.
Oil Consumption — Excessive oil consumption was a significant problem, often caused by worn piston rings and valve seals. GM suggested using the correct oil grade and closely monitoring oil levels. They also implemented updated PCV valves to manage oil consumption more effectively.
Timing Chain Problems — These early models frequently encountered timing chain stretch and failure. Symptoms included engine misfires, poor performance, and rough idling.
To address this, GM extended the warranty on timing chains and updated the ECM software to improve oil life monitoring, reducing the likelihood of timing chain stretch. Regular oil changes with high-quality oil were also recommended to keep the timing chain well-lubricated and in good condition.
Oil Consumption — Excessive oil consumption was a significant problem, often caused by worn piston rings and valve seals. GM suggested using the correct oil grade and closely monitoring oil levels. They also implemented updated PCV valves to manage oil consumption more effectively.
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You need to go back before the vc gaskets. First thing is a compression check, how did it look under the covers? Was it clean or had it missed several oil changes? I bought an L with low even compression and was able to save it. The thing looked terrible under the cover due to many missed oil changes. The chain had just slipped enough to not run. It had not bent any valves yet. Need to see compression numbers to advise.