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Getting in tune
So if I change my intake I need to have a shop tune it?
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It depends largely on what car you have, and what kind of intake you’re installing... A DIY short ram or the like on a car that doesn’t use a MAF sensor will likely be fine unless you don’t relocate the IAT sensor... On a car that uses a MAF, extra care has to be taken to make sure the MAF is located in smooth airflow and if you changed the sampling tube (that the MAF bolts into) itself, be sure to keep the tube size the same, or it will throw off the readings and result in a lean(P0171) or rich (P0172) code, or some other drive ability issue... generally in cases like these it’s best to get a tune if you can... the issue is that hat a lot of Saturns have NO aftermarket tuning support... only models that im aware of that can be tuned are: 00-03 L series 2.2 06-07 Ion 2.4 07 Ion 2.2 07-up Aura 2.4, 3.5, and 3.6 |
Getting in tune
I have a 2004 ion redline. Thinking of the warrior z secret weapon.
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Honestly I’d go with the ZZP intake for the Redline if you can find one/can swing it... I have one on my RL(that I’ve been trying on and off to part out) it sounds great and it’s pretty well made... and definitely get tuned after doing an intake on the LSJ, the tune itself can add 10-15whp... |
Getting in tune
Your parting out your Saturn. If so and have an intake for sale how much
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Sent you a PM |
beat me to hooking you two up......
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Guess he never stuck around to buy anything or receive more advice... |
Can't believe he'd run away from a full parts car minus running engine
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I think I’d have better luck fixing the car and selling it whole, rather than selling the performance upgrades... |
Disagree. Someone who needs body or door panels is not going to find them anywhere else
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Intakes are silly for ions. K&n drop in with air box mod and res delete.
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Please elaborate.
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Stock intake is good for 300 something hp.
Plus any intake on the market is a smaller diameter than stock. I've tested the k&n, aem short ram and full cai, weapon r, and a few ebay ones. Never got my hands on an injen or fujita, but crap reviews. Stock adjusted as stated will perform better. I'm using a stock lk9 box on my car. |
Thank you for the details.
Not too many peeps that want upgrades actually bother to consider the capabilities of the stock version. Because aftermarket parts are by definition better.... not. |
Eh, the stock design can be improved upon, but the box itself is usually adequate for a stock normally aspirated engine... the air tube is corrugated in places and it has a box on top of the TB for NVH reasons... gotta be a restriction so I went with a smooth tube, and I’m planning on a modded airbox with a bigger air inlet in the floor and a bigger outlet in the lid...
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Remove the resonator and cut the fins off the box for a base model. Biggest restriction is the baffles in the tube from the box to tb then. But even there, its bigger than anything you'll buy off the shelf.
Even in the redline world, stock intake outflows anything on the market. Its just a noise mod for em unless they go TVS or turbo. |
I’ve got a res delete and a smooth tube (no baffles) and my new lid (still need to install) has the fins cut out and a 3.5” outlet instead of the oval shaped one on the stock lid...
i loved the ZZP intake on my Redline though, it sounded great (though you’re right in saying the stock airbox is good to around 300whp) |
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