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WhichWayToday 02-12-2008 09:08 PM

Anyone know how to program my 1998 SW2 for additional OEM keyless entry remotes? Service writer guy at the dealership showed me how to do it once by shorting two pins together in the diagnostic connector under the dash. Then you would press buttons on each remove you want the car to respond to. I need to add an additional remote I have to my Saturn and don’t remember the details of how to do it. Anybody know?

Low Saturn 02-13-2008 10:41 AM

If the key is in the ON position during the programming procedure, the horn chirp will be disabled, if the key is in the OFF position, the horn chirp will be enabled. The horn will chirp when the lock button is pressed two times.

When reprogramming the remote control door lock reciever, All transmitters must be programmed at this time in order for the transmitters to operate the vehicle. Transmitters not programed at this time will not work and the procedure will have to be redone with all the transmitters.

1. Ground pin 4 to pin 8 of the data link connector (DLC).

2. The receiver will respond by locking and unlocking the doors, and activating the liftgate window release (if equipped) within 2 seconds. Press and hold the LOCK and UNLOCK buttons simultaneously on the first transmitter to be programmed until the locks cycle (approximately 10 seconds).

3. Repeat step 2 for up to four total transmitters to be programmed (if available).

4. The receiver will respond by locking and unlocking the doors and activating the liftgate window release (if equipped) within 2 seconds. Remove the ground applied to the DLC.

5. Lock and unlock the doors in order to verify the transmitter operation.

6. Activate the rear trunk release in order to verify the transmitter operation.

WhichWayToday 02-14-2008 08:20 AM

Thanks. Sounds like what I remember the guy telling me years ago.

mldsd 01-30-2009 03:23 PM

Mike:

I was wondering if you could help me on this one. All of
a sudden my remote keyless entry chirp mode changed. Now
instead of only chirping after I press the lock key
twice (as you described above), my 1998 Saturn SL2
chirps twice when I unlock and once when I lock. It is
very annoying and I would like it to revert to the
"normal" mode.

I have tried to re-sync (press the LOCK and UNLOCK
buttons for 7 seconds), but that did not get rid of the
chirp.

I have also tried to short pin 4 with pin 8 (as
described above), but instead of responding by locking
and unlocking the doors, it responded by chirping
several times. When I pressed the LOCK and UNLOCK it
proceeded to un-sync our receivers (the remote no longer
worked). I had to re-sync the remotes to make them work
again.

Any suggestions?

Thanks,

Mae:l

sw2cam 01-30-2009 05:50 PM


Originally Posted by mldsd
Mike:

I was wondering if you could help me on this one. All of
a sudden my remote keyless entry chirp mode changed. Now
instead of only chirping after I press the lock key
twice (as you described above), my 1998 Saturn SL2
chirps twice when I unlock and once when I lock. It is
very annoying and I would like it to revert to the
"normal" mode.

I have tried to re-sync (press the LOCK and UNLOCK
buttons for 7 seconds), but that did not get rid of the
chirp.

I have also tried to short pin 4 with pin 8 (as
described above), but instead of responding by locking
and unlocking the doors, it responded by chirping
several times. When I pressed the LOCK and UNLOCK it
proceeded to un-sync our receivers (the remote no longer
worked). I had to re-sync the remotes to make them work
again.

Any suggestions?

Thanks,

Mae:l

Try opening the fob cleaning the contatcs and installing a new battery.

hoseppi 01-31-2009 11:38 PM

Will this method work for all S series vehicles

sw2cam 02-01-2009 07:57 AM

Yes all 1999 and olderEdited by: sw2cam

hoseppi 02-04-2009 12:54 PM

Will it work on 2001-2002 S and L series cars also?

sw2cam 02-04-2009 04:17 PM

No it does not work on L-CARS

hoseppi 02-08-2009 07:14 AM

Will it work on 01-02 S series cars?

OceanArcher 02-08-2009 07:30 AM

Yes

sw2cam 02-11-2009 07:41 PM


Originally Posted by hoseppi
Will it work on 01-02 S series cars?

The answer is .......... NO

OceanArcher 02-11-2009 09:10 PM



?? No ???


Kindly expound on that statement if you would ...

hoseppi 02-12-2009 06:20 AM

I did notice that the terminals (OBD Port)are arranged differently on the newer models ( ''00 - ''02 ). You can''t run a jumper from 4 to 8. Howie

sw2cam 02-12-2009 07:53 AM

NO one must use a TECH II ........... to set or reset remotes 2000 and newer SATURNS

GeneD 09-23-2023 05:46 AM

I know it has been some time since this thread was done but I thought I'd try for a solution here...... I have a 1998 SC2. I was trying to sync a second remote. I shorted pin 4 and 8. The car chirped, I pressed the lock/unlock button..... it chirped..... I pulled at the paperclip..... THEN the buttons for lock/unlock/trunk would not work.......BUT it cleared the original remote so it would not work for several time I re-did the procedure just in case I had done something wrong........... Nothing worked.....and even though I continue to hear the horn chip when I was cross 4 & 8 and when I press lock/unlock it won't work after I pull the the paperclip out.......what is going on????

derf 09-25-2023 03:00 PM

Are you sure the lock and unlock contacts inside the remote are clean?
Have you checked the fuse for the RKE system/?
Are you sure that the pins you are crossing are the corect ones?

GeneD 09-25-2023 07:47 PM

I have used a brand new remote with a brand new battery. I pulled the fuse of the RKE system out and put my DVM on it and even when my DVM tested it fine, I still got a brand new fuse and tried it, and I've been working on cars for since I was a teen 45 years ago, I have 5 diagnostic scanners, and one of the scanners is just for OBD1...... Yes I am crossing the right pins.......................

derf 09-27-2023 04:25 PM

Not trying to insult, sir, but we all overlook simple stuff from time to time.

We also have many members that have loads of automotive mechanic experience but simply have not worked on the older Saturns. Or any Saturns for that matter.

Is the remote the correct frequency? Meaning does it have the same frequency as is listed on the back of an oem Saturn fob for that here range of s car?

The logical answer to this is (one of them) is that that the remote is not communicating with the rke.

Do you have another fob, an OEM Saturn fob, that does communicate with the vehicle? That would likely rule out the rke system itself.

Have you checked that the fob was not shipped with a battery in it that has a discharge eliminator installed, and therefore the battery is not actually in the circuit because that plastic battery terminal cover is keeping one terminal from touching the clip?

Have you checked to ensure the rke is securely plugged in and receiving power?

That's a lot of scanners.

GeneD 09-27-2023 08:23 PM

I also have the original FOB and it was opening the doors and unlocking the trunk just last week as it has for years, and it is not doing anything now..... Even the new remotes are doing the same as the older remote...... when I cross the #4 and #8 pin the horn chirps, I press the lock/unlock button on these remotes (all of them...even the one that was working fine last week) and the horn chips BUT the lock/unlock on the doors do not cycle.....AND when I take the paperclip out of the #4 and #8 and I press the buttons it does nothing...................

derf 09-28-2023 06:47 AM

Sounds like an rke module / wiring issue.

Have you tried disconnecting the battery for half an hour to force a full reboot of the PCM and rke?

The only thing you lose is your radio presets. I don't remember second gen s cars having adaptive transmission curves.

Another fun way to absolutely rule out the remotes is to find a buddy with a second gen s car and ask him to let you attempt to sync your remotes with his rke.

I'm trying to remember where the rke is located

derf 10-16-2023 03:02 PM

Is the PCM and engine from a later 3rd gen s car?

Rubehayseed 10-17-2023 08:24 AM

Zero for three on the feedback, derf. I'm amazed that you even bother to answer anymore. I still appreciate all of your efforts, but I'm not too sure about the people that you're actually trying to help.

derf 10-17-2023 04:51 PM

Just reread your thread.

After the chirp, you are supposed to press and hold down the lock and unlock until the door lock cycles, no?

That is from ancient memory, could be wrong.

If it is a third generation PCM, you cannot use this method to program fobs. Dealer must do it with a tech II


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