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'98 Saturn SC2 05-08-2012 03:31 PM

Instrument Cluster
 
Could I swap the DOHC cluster with my SOHC cluster? Would the connectors be the same on the back?

RjION 05-09-2012 11:06 AM

I remember someone wanting to do that years ago .... I do not remeber the outcome. Maybe search around the forums a little, and if you find nothing .... give it a try. If you do it, post it on here so others have the info.

Octavious 05-09-2012 11:16 AM

I just got the whole saturn factory shop manual, I looked at the connectors and there isnt any specific connector for dohc or sohc, there just connectors.
I have another set of gauges lying around waiting to be put in my car, i can get a pic of the connectors so you can check and be sure
(I actually have a spare DOHC cluster from a 98 and from a 99 - both digital odometer - sitting around. Ill have the one from 99 once I get the homecoming gauges in my car)

'98 Saturn SC2 05-09-2012 07:06 PM

Okay I'll see what I find. It seems like they are both the same. I'm going to the junkyard to find a dohc cluster with a digital odometer. Hopefully I find something. I'll post about the outcome of the project.

Octavious 05-09-2012 10:45 PM


Originally Posted by '98 Saturn SC2 (Post 30633)
Okay I'll see what I find. It seems like they are both the same. I'm going to the junkyard to find a dohc cluster with a digital odometer. Hopefully I find something. I'll post about the outcome of the project.

If you dont find one, Ill be more than happy to sell you one of mine

'98 Saturn SC2 05-10-2012 09:54 AM

That'd be sweet bro, thanks! I'll let you know if I find one.

'98 Saturn SC2 12-03-2012 05:13 PM

Is it possible to fit an 04 Ion cluster into a 98 SC? I know it may be far fetched, but I thought I'd ask to see if anyone has done it or heard of it.

sw2cam 12-03-2012 05:16 PM

Nothing other than the battery will bolt into a S car from the ION

SilverCoupe#SC2 12-03-2012 11:39 PM

I was gonna say if you have a 3rd gen SC2 you have slightly more options with instrument clusters. I was searching around and i stumbled upon this on sixthsphere and someone did an entire list of the clusters that can be swapped. No wiring required, its all plug-n-play https://www.saturnforum.com/forum/pi...&pictureid=590

RjION 12-04-2012 06:33 AM

That list was posted on here also.........................so if anyone runs across it be sure to repost in one of the S forums.

derf 12-04-2012 10:09 AM

not to get off topic but didn't someone just post that joey at sixthsphere is being less than honest on his transactions? Not saying one way or the other but thought I'd refresh on the issue....

Octavious 12-04-2012 10:39 AM

im confuzzled.

back to what i was gonna say : maybe go look for the homecoming edition gauges if you want nice looking ones, they're off white faced and nice, Found mine on ebay for like $50.

When you do change your gauges, write your actual mileage down on the door sticker before you take the cluster out, since these cars store the mileage in the gauge set, not computer.

RjION 12-05-2012 06:11 PM


Originally Posted by derf (Post 33821)
not to get off topic but didn't someone just post that joey at sixthsphere is being less than honest on his transactions? Not saying one way or the other but thought I'd refresh on the issue....

I saw the same thing..............was it in this thread?

'98 Saturn SC2 12-09-2012 11:01 AM

Kinda figured. What's the difference between the 3rd gen cluster and a 2nd gen cluster?

SilverCoupe#SC2 12-09-2012 02:43 PM


Originally Posted by '98 Saturn SC2 (Post 33950)
Kinda figured. What's the difference between the 3rd gen cluster and a 2nd gen cluster?

I think the main difference between them is that the odometer is analog in the 2ndGen and the 3rdGen is digital. Other than that they are pretty much the same

'98 Saturn SC2 12-11-2012 05:24 PM

My 2nd gen has a digital odometer though.

SilverCoupe#SC2 12-11-2012 10:25 PM

hmmmm.. id have to see a pic of a 2ndGen, then i could tell you the difference.

uncljohn 12-12-2012 06:49 AM

To tell the truth I have no idea what a 2nd and 3rd generation Saturn is. I do know however my 94 which as all analog gauges on the dashboard, the drive to them is digital. The conversion from a digital drive to an analog display is done on the dashboard itself.
While I have no way to prove this but if some one told me that the plugs all interchanged between my year and a newer one on the instrument panel than I would also pretty much have a tendency to believe the circuitry driving it would not have been changed as that would not have been really to cost effective for a model change and moving dash boards around between years probably would work.
My guess is if they fit?
They will work.
As the conversions are done on the instrument panel.

SilverCoupe#SC2 12-13-2012 05:12 PM


Originally Posted by uncljohn (Post 33991)
To tell the truth I have no idea what a 2nd and 3rd generation Saturn is. I do know however my 94 which as all analog gauges on the dashboard, the drive to them is digital. The conversion from a digital drive to an analog display is done on the dashboard itself.
While I have no way to prove this but if some one told me that the plugs all interchanged between my year and a newer one on the instrument panel than I would also pretty much have a tendency to believe the circuitry driving it would not have been changed as that would not have been really to cost effective for a model change and moving dash boards around between years probably would work.
My guess is if they fit?
They will work.
As the conversions are done on the instrument panel.

The 1stGen Saturn is 91'-94', 2ndGen is 95'-2000, and the 3rdGen is 01'-03'

derf 12-13-2012 10:45 PM

my 2nd gen coupe 97 has analog odo.

I thought (for coupes anyway)
1st gen = 91-96
2nd gen = 97-99
3rd gen = 00-02

S sedans ...don't remember when they redesigned them -- thinkin 96 yes?

uncljohn 12-14-2012 08:16 AM


Originally Posted by derf (Post 34028)
my 2nd gen coupe 97 has analog odo.

I thought (for coupes anyway)
1st gen = 91-96
2nd gen = 97-99
3rd gen = 00-02

S sedans ...don't remember when they redesigned them -- thinkin 96 yes?

The service document I use for the 94 was a Haynes document supplied by the dealer when the car was purchased in '96 and is similar to most I have seen of that type. It covers up through 95. I have not given much thought to what other variations are and have limited exposure to them. Although a friend of my had a 99 which I maintained for him and I don't remember getting into trouble using the documentation I have. As close as I remember the differences were mostly cosmetic and with body work. The only other was a coupe similar to the one I own, but I don't remember the year.

derf 12-14-2012 01:38 PM

yeah i have a 95 and 97 sc2 and I routinely use the 91-93 book for them with no issues.


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