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uncljohn
03-07-2011, 04:53 AM
A few years back when the neighbors daughter graduated from High School and started life by going to college, her parents wanted to purchase a car for her.
They at the time as many families were suffering a bit from job security and finances and had borrowed my 94 Saturn coupe when they needed an extra car a number of times.
The ended up buying a 99 Saturn sedan for the daughter and off to college she goes.
They in turn bought and then traded a Saturn or two and now have 1 late model and a Kia and a Dodge.
In the mean time the daughter complete college and is going on for a PHD. She has become a young adult with a goal and a career, a Saturn sedan well maintained, just repainted and lives at home for the moment as she adjusts her life to her education
and
wants a new car!
Part of it is growing up, part of it is the Saturn now has about 100,000 miles on it
and
Part of it is the danged thing is burning oil
where as mine? Still does not.
She had her car maintained by the dealer the entire time she owned it and still does.
The repaint was due to a minor accident and a gift from her parents.
Here is a nice used car, a bit long in tooth now, but mine is longer.
Bought with my recommendation because of my owning one and enjoying it and being a car nut to boot.
I had no idea until time past, that these things were prone to burning oil when maintained as the Dealer and the Factory recommended.
Mine? When purchased I looked at the recommended service in terms of oil used and said no way, not mine, not how I drive
and changed to what I felt was correct.
I still have it, I still like it and it does not burn any oil.
I use the same oil in it that I use in my new Chrysler which was changed to the first oil change after buying it from the dealer 3 years ago.
Secretly? I am sorry I recommended buying this Saturn to my neighbor some 7 or so years ago.
Dang. What a frustrating feeling it is.
Suspecting and believing that the reason for the oil burning now
was a decision made by the factory to use a light weight oil in a car that never should have been used due to engine reliability issues, so that fuel economy might increase by some small insignificant percentage using the lighter oil, but it looked better for advertising purposes.

OceanArcher
03-07-2011, 07:54 AM
Your discussion has merit, and obviously much thought went into your decision to shift away from the original factory recommended viscosity -- do you get many strange stares at the parts shop when you request a "single weight-high detergent oil ??

fm2200
03-07-2011, 01:21 PM
Ocean - What oil viscosity oil is right, I have always used 10/30 in winter 10/40 in summer. I have only GM Ford and Chrysler brand cars. Never owned or will own Jap products.

OceanArcher
03-07-2011, 09:10 PM
There is probably as many answers to that question, as there are people here on this Forum. In the three Saturns still in my stable ('93SW2, '02L200, '09AuraXE) - I'm running 10w40 non-synthetic oil in all of them. I'm located in the very southernmost portion of Mississippi, so my winters are neither long nor extremely harsh. It does get warm in the summer, but not like Arizona or Nevada.

Is my selection the best for everyone? -- Obviously "no", but it works for me. Of the 9 Saturns I've owned since early in '92, none of them have been oil burners.

uncljohn
03-08-2011, 04:45 AM
Your discussion has merit, and obviously much thought went into your decision to shift away from the original factory recommended viscosity -- do you get many strange stares at the parts shop when you request a "single weight-high detergent oil ??
No, actually I don't. And if I did I am not sure I would care very much. I haven't lost an engine since they stopped using lead at which point I lost two street racers due to detonation or pinging.
But I have not used a single weight oil since a multivicosity 40 weight came out and since I live in the south west where it is over 100 degrees a third of the year I use exclusively a multi viscosity 20 W 50 except for the engines I use synthetic oil in and that is Mobile 1 15 W 50.
My new Chrysler suggested or dealer demanded oil weight is 5 W 20, which was stopped at the first oil change and it seems to me that is the universerly used oil since dealers and manufacturers have stressed
light oil = good gas mileage
and we are not responcible after 30,000 mile warrenty runs out.
And as I remember, that is what the Saturn Dealer was insistant on using when the Saturn was first purchased in 1996.
And what was suggested by the manufacturers of the fleet cars the service division ran and I was in charge of at the time untill I got sick and tired of hearing techs say the things were running hot. So I forced them to do the same, run either 20w40 or 20w50 and they quit it.
So if you are using a 10W30 and the oil vs temperature charts do indeed suggest that as a proper weigh oil for your temperatue conditions, there is not reason to be concerned.
But more and more, the 5W20 oil is pushed for use on newer cars to the point where bulk oil companies or discount places are not even selling the heavier oils
and more and more cars are burning it when they get high mileage, way past dealer responcibility, or care.
As the salesman said to me when I drove the Saturn down to the Chevy dealer to buy parts for the Wanna Be Corvette motor I am building,
"You oughta trade that car!"
When asked why he replied
"They don't make them anymore!"
I'm still trying to figure out how to say
Bite me
politically correct.
Oh, and I solved the detonation problem for me anyway. I just build a 9:1 compression engine that will run on 91 octane, the highest octane premium pump gas sold here in Arizona, and can be tuned to run hard with out detonation or pinging.
At least for those engines I still use 30 or 40 year old cast iron cylinder heads anyway.