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Momma Sell
04-15-2009, 10:34 PM
Anyone out there care to speculate what a Saturn Sky will be worth if the Saturn brand is discontinued?

RjION
04-15-2009, 10:51 PM
I'll speculate that one day the SKY will become a desired collectable. What will it be worth ..... I'd not place one in my garage and hold my breath.

RjION
06-20-2009, 08:58 AM
discontinued..............what are you talking about?

Momma Sell
06-21-2009, 10:40 AM
Ah, remember I did say "if"!

derf
06-21-2009, 11:01 AM
Momma,
I think he's banging on kurtdaniel for his comment WHEN saturn is discontinued, in light of the whole Penske thing

derf
07-14-2009, 04:46 PM
Well, then convince Mr. Penske not to AXE it..... apparently they lose $$$$ on each one...

RjION
07-30-2009, 09:43 PM
With the Opel version gone, the Solstice gone the SKY is gone, and Roger has nothing to do with it.

sw2cam
08-09-2009, 10:00 PM
Yep the entire kappa line up is gone, and Mr Penske had nothing to do with it.

Momma Sell
08-10-2009, 09:22 AM
It's so sad to think of Saturn not offering the Sky. It's such a beautiful car. I still get so many comments everytime I'm out driving it. I'm keeping mine just because I'm proud to say I own it.

derf
08-10-2009, 10:29 PM
I'm keeping mine just because I'm proud to say I own it.

Wha? I'd keep mine to drive and enjoy if I had one......

RjION
09-06-2009, 11:52 AM
No doubt it'll gain value.......but I'd drive mine.

Beverly Stayart
09-09-2009, 02:31 PM
Any car discontinued will gain in value if kept in mint condition.

sw2cam
09-25-2009, 02:39 PM
Any car discontinued or not will gain in value if kept in mint condition.

derf
09-25-2009, 10:38 PM
No car not not discontinued or not will not not gain in value even without mints.

Beverly Stayart
10-01-2009, 02:43 PM
Keep driving the Sky and enjoy it.

RjION
01-23-2010, 09:35 AM
Drive on

RjION
03-18-2010, 06:26 PM
Now mind you I think the SKY outshines the Solstice by a long shot, but this is the one thats going to bring all the cash down the road.

uncljohn
06-06-2010, 09:10 AM
A general comment on collectability. In general a car that was popular when new, becomes quite collectable as time passes. Whether it deserves it or not. Case in point, a 1955 Chevy. There is nothing about a 1955 Chevy that indicates any kind of collectable uniqness in design, execution, value at the time of manufacture and the list goes on.
It was however extremely popular in the showroom in it's day. It is popular today. Something the Saturn was hardly ever and primarily responsible for the current position. Out of business!
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if you look in the forums, the original Saturn, the one that took all the (undeserved) heat at the time, is the one that gets the most activity in the forums. It was in and of itself a unique car in many ways, poorly marketed and under-recognized. It is a car that has long deserved beater status as a cheap throwaway used car, but seems to hang in with some form of popularity. While by in large, the last offerings were both dumpy (arguable to some) and re-badged generic GM products from the international market place. Hardly a stellar recommendation.
Discontinued does not guarantee success in automotive collectabillity as many a sad tale can be found.
Realistically, how big is the waiting line to own a Gareau, last seen in 1910, in Canada.

RjION
12-05-2010, 09:39 AM
Except when the 55 came out it was all the rage with the motor heads because of the new light weight small block 265 ci V/8. called the HotOne by everyone. It's said that the car changed the history of Chevrolet. It was a HUGE style change from all past Chevrolets. Other then that it was nothing special.

uncljohn
12-06-2010, 09:31 AM
It's said that the car changed the history of Chevrolet. It was a HUGE style change from all past Chevrolets. Other then that it was nothing special
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Well yuh, but not over night, it took a little bit for that to happen.
but the 50's were a big break through for engine desighn from all manufacturers. All the engineering done for aircraft engine technology was finally cost effective to apply to mass production automobiles and the techno-race was on. The chevy engine turned out to be a winner. It still had to de-throne the flat head ford V8 and it did.
WWII and the first modern shortstroke v8 was the olds and the Caddy in 1949 with Studebaker in 1950 followed by various Chryslers products 1 at a time with a Hemi untoil Plymouth in 55 with the Polyspere version of the wedge. Ford in 54, w/ mercury. Lincoln in 52, Packard in 55, all other GM in 55, Kaiser still used a propiatory flathead I-6 but with a supercharger. Flat head I-6's were still being produced in 59 w/Plymouth and later with Nash. By then everything was over head valves but in line engines still mainatained the heritage from the 30's by being long stroked.
The chevy engine was a clear winner when the votes were counted and todays small block chevy can still be traced back to the 265 from 1955. A hell of a rcommendation whether you like 'm or not.
Heck even in the early 50's the Chevy stove bolt six still used splash lubrication on the rods until 1953 I think,

sw2cam
12-10-2010, 09:42 PM
1955 changed "Chevrolet" over night.

RjION
03-06-2011, 08:23 PM
1955 changed "Chevrolet" over night.

I agree

RjION
09-05-2011, 06:42 PM
Collector's Vehicle?

Go right ahead store it away in a temp controlled warehouse.......We didn't buy a SKY we bought a Solstice awhile back. We are driving the "H" out of it. It's a fun driver not sitting in the garage waiting for a value increase.

uncljohn
09-06-2011, 07:50 AM
We are driving the "H" out of it. It's a fun driver not sitting in the garage waiting for a value increase.
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When they arrived and looking at them I realised for me a neat car and a desirable one and at the time not only out of my budget but as I am involved with an automotive hobby around cars that went out of production as a company in 1988, no place to park one. I passed, not realising Saturn was on it's way out.
I know people who put there lives into preserving a piece of automtive history and active in championing reproduction parts, national interest and advetising interest, successfully. While the activity was not for the reason of but they were hoping theier retirement would be financed on the increased value of unique high performance cars manufactured at the time. A wait that turned out to be in vane.
Yes today some of those cars have value, 40 to 60 years later, and reproduction parts are available for the most desirable models, some anyway, the rest depends on a donar car of some time and expensive cosmetic restoration. And if you are lucky you might get $45,000 for one of the most desirable models, the cost of storage over 50 years of owning it while prices of paint jobs for example went from any color you want for $29.95 at Earl Shibes to a minimum of 6 grand for a workable show quality starter paint job.
If you got the money, store'm, if you got the talent restore them. If you got the car enjoy it.
But don't expect the increased value to pay for'm. It ain't gonna happen.
The basic rule in collector cars is if they were popular when new, they are popular now.
Saturns wern't, and arn't and I sure like mine.
An automotive example of too bad!

sw2cam
09-11-2011, 12:57 PM
The SKY and Solstice where extremely popular and will bring all the money down the road. It's just the road needs to be traveled a bit more.

uncljohn
09-15-2011, 08:07 AM
Sales figures of the Saturn Sky over 4 years totaled about 34,000 or so. In 2007 the sales of the Hyundai Sonata was 143,000 or so all by itself.
History has repeated itself in collector car value over and over, a popular car when new remains popular and worth money. My interpretation of popular and yours must be totally different. I like the Sky, I am not crazy about a Hyundai, but my money is on the Hyundai for being worth more as a collector car.
Heck in 1958 you could not give a 1958 Chevy away. 50 years later they are worth something now to some extent but a 57 or 59 Chevy is worth a whole bunch more and has been.
Try pricing a 1957 Studebaker, you'd be lucky to cover the cost of a show quality paint job.
if you have a sky drive the hell out of it and enjoy it. If you were to put it in storage for the next 50 years, the price of the car probably would not cover storage fees.

sw2cam
09-17-2011, 07:48 AM
I believe the SKY & Solstice will become highly prized rides in the future buy it's not worth the aurgument seeing we'll not be around to witness it. Thats why I'd drive the hell out of it. The next question is, did you send me a jpg you want for an AVATAR?

RjION
10-17-2011, 07:00 PM
To be honest, I think the Kappa Cars will do well in the collectors market down the road.

derf
04-23-2012, 08:53 AM
my sc2's hold the same $500-$1000 value every day